With Venom: The Last Dance opening in theaters in just a few days, fans are preparing for what Sony has confirmed is the end of the franchise. However, even if The Last Dance is the the last dance for the Venom franchise, it is starting to seem as though Tom Hardy‘s symbiote may have a few more moves in the tank.
When asked how a Spidey and Venom brawl might play out, Hardy’s gave an answer that will absolutely have fans talking.
“Venom is just like a gorilla, isn’t he? He’ll do what he has to do. I think that would be good fun,” said Hardy who then added that if his Brock were to fight a Spidey, he knows exactly which one hed like it to be.
I think Tom Holland is the best Spider-Man that was ever played, so I’m really fond of him. I think he’s a great actor and a great kid. I’m an old man, but I’d like to work with him.
#Venom: Tom Hardy raves over Tom Holland as "best" Spider-Man and says he wouldn't necessarily met on himself in that fight! 😅👊 Plus, he says there's still "so much more" to do with Venom. #VenomTheLastDance@VenomMoviepic.twitter.com/eIXSRgIFsZ
With the Multiverse Saga rapidly unraveling following the atypically poor quality of several projects in 2022 and 2023, Marvel Studios wisely pressed the pause button on the production of their future slate last year to analyze what went wrong and chart a new path forward. As part of that new path, the studio scrapped its plansfor the fifth Avengers film and Kevin Feige reeled Robert Downey Jr. back into the fold to suit up as Marvel Comics’ greatest villain, Doctor Doom, in the new vision of the project, Avengers: Doomsday. Feige’s efforts to save the sagadidn’t stop there, as he also convinced the studio’s most successful directing duo, Anthony and Joe Russo, to return to direct both Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars.
Unsurprisingly, the return of the brothers Russo was part of a package deal that helped assure Downey that the studio was doing everything possible to curate the stories of the next two Avengers films carefully. An additional layer of security for Downey and the Russos was also provided when Stephen McFeely, who co-wrote several MCU projects including Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame, joined the project. Since the big changes were announced at SDCC ’24, there hasn’t been much official buzz around the projects; however, Collider was recently able to catch up with the Russos at NYCC and the duo was willing to share some big updates on both where things stand with both Doomsday and Secret Wars.
SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA – JULY 27: (L-R) Joe Russo, Anthony Russo and Kevin Feige, President, Marvel Studios speak onstage during the Marvel Studios Panel in Hall H at SDCC in San Diego, California on July 27, 2024. (Photo by Jesse Grant/Getty Images for Disney)
“Stephen McFeely is writing the script,” said Joe Russo about Avengers: Doomsday while adding that “we are right in the middle of the writing process.” Fans will, of course, note that there’s no mention of Christopher Markus being involved in the process despite being a co-writer on all of the Russo’s MCU projects and many non-MCU projects as well. And while some have tried to raise alarms over the absence of Markus, it seems as though all is well and that the brothers have gotten into a familiar groove with McFeely. We’ve always worked very closely with Markus and McFeely through all the work that we’ve done together,” said Joe. “It’s a little bit like getting back on a bike. We have a really codified process that we all work together through… It’s very complicated to iron out a story of this scale.”
That scale of the story of Avengers: Doomsday, and of Avengers: Secret Wars, may end up being larger than anything the studio has produced to date. While fans will have to wait some time before the entire cast lists of either film will be revealed, both are expected to see the return of dozens upon dozens of characters from the heroes of previous Avengers films to the Fantastic Four to the Scarlet Witch to Tom Holland‘s Spider-Man and even Thanos. Though he didn’t give anything away, Joe Russo confirmed to Collider that fans should expect a lot of heroes, villains and stories all coming together over teh course of the two Avengers films. “These are gonna be very, very big movies with a lot of characters in them and a lot of story lines coalescing,’ said the co-director before providing some positive vibes about the scripts saying, “We’re really happy with how they’re coming together right now.“
With the scripting process well underway, the Russos confirmed that principal photography on Avengers: Doomsday will kick off in the UK in the spring while also addressing how long of a break they’ll take before cameras roll on Avengers: Secret Wars. “It’ll be similar [to the process of filming Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame], but we’ll have a larger break in between the two movies than we did,” said Joe Russo before asking his brother, Anthony for clarification “I think it was four weeks maybe? Was it four weeks between Infinity War and Endgame?“. Anthony then confirmed that they do not plan to film the two projects back-to-back, indicating that they may have “a year or so” of separation.
I think it was a couple of weeks. But no, these are not as separated as you would normally separate two films of this scale, but they’re more substantially separated [than Infinity War and Endgame] by a year or so.
-Anthony Russo
With the two films set to open up a year apart in May 2026 and May 2027, respectively, it sounds as though all things are in order to make those release dates and deliver two large scale stories that MCU fans have been craving.
Tom Holland‘s time as the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s Spider-Man has been an incredible success. After debuting in Captain America: Civil War, Holland’s Peter Parker led three solo Spider-Man films (Spider-Man: Homecoming, Spider-Man: Far From Home and Spider-Man: No Way Home) and starred in both Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame. Five of those films hit theaters in a three-year span so, understandably, Holland has been a bit of a break from the character since No Way Home hit theaters in 2022. However, as Marvel Studios’ Multiverse Saga moves toward its final phase, it’s time for the Webhead to return and help lift the studio back to its former glory.
Whatever the plot of the film, set to be directed by Destin Daniel Cretton, ends up being, it’s clear that Holland has been given some level of input into his fourth go around. In a recent interview, the star revealed that the project has “a creative and a pitch and a draft” which he deemed “excellent” while also admitting that “it needs work.” Later in the interview, Holland reiterated that there were “a few things we need to figure out before we can get that really going” in order to ensure the legacy of the character was kept intact.
I feel like I owe it to [fans] to give and deliver the best version of what the next chapter for Spider-Man looks likeand I think that’s really important, and I think the creative integrity for something like that is really important, and the studio is on board and supportive and really collaborative.
-Tom Holland
Over the last decade, Marvel Comics added an incredible new layer to the legacy of Spider-Man in Miles Morales. The character has proven to be a hit across all mediums and fans have called out for his live-action debut for quite some time. Interestingly enough, despite all the wild plans Sony continues to concoct, none of them have included a live-action Miles Morales project. One can decide for oneself if that’s telling or not but one reasonable explanation for why Sony hasn’t moved forward with such a project yet is that they may indeed prefer to introduce the character in a Marvel Studios project and enter into a collaborative agreement similar to the one they have over the use of Peter Parker. Whether that ever comes to pass or not, it’s clear that Holland would be on board with such a decision.
During an interview with Rich Roll, the star made it clear that before he moves on from the role of Peter Parker, he wants to help introduce whichever young actor is chosen as Miles into the MCU. “If I would be lucky enough to somehow bring Miles Morales into my Spider-Man Universe and into the MCU, I’d love to do for a young kid what [Robert] Downey [Jr.] did for me.“
It’s a wonderful idea and one that would deepen and enrich both characters, as it has in the comics, if done correctly. Though his love for the character is well-known, Holland’s time as Spider-Man may be growing short. Rumors persist that he’ll not only star in Spider-Man 4 but also play major roles in both Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars, which will end the Multiverse Saga. While it’s unclear exactly what the plans are beyond the Multiverse Saga, the potential for a clean break from Peter Parker and a shift to Miles Morales as the primary Spider-Man of the MCU does exist. And Holland seems ready to make it happen.
He is…inevitable. As the Avengers learned in Avengers: Infinity War, there’s no more dangerous foe than Thanos, the Mad Titan. And though they had some measure of revenge against him and were able to defeat another Variant of the villain in Avengers: Endgame, Earth-616 was forever changed because of his machinations and was left without several of its mightiest heroes. Simply put, although the Avengers avenged, Thanos won.
After being introduced in a relatively minor role in James Gunn‘s Guardians of the Galaxy, Thanos became the central villain of what came to be known as the Infinity Saga. With Josh Brolin on board to bring Thanos to life, Marvel Studios did the unthinkable by making a villain the protagonist of Avengers: Infinity War. Now, as the studio prepares to shine the spotlight on another of Marvel Comics’ great villains in Avengers: Doomsday, a pair of convergent reports claim that the MCU is also turning back to Thanos.
You Couldn’t Live with Your Own Failure, Where Did that Bring You? Back to Me.
After social media scooper MTTSH claimed that Thanos was headed back to the MCU “sooner than you think”, ComicBookMovie.com followed up with their own claim: Marvel Studios has plans for the Mad Titan to appear in Avengers: Secret Wars.
After originally being developed by Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness scribe Michael Waldron, the script of Avengers: Secret Wars is now in the hands of Stephen McFeely who co-wrote both Infinity War and Endgame, making him very familiar with Thanos. Add in the fact that the brothers Russo are back in the directors’ chairs for Doomsday and Secret Wars and the idea that the return of Thanos in the latter could put him against Robert Downey Jr. again and you have the makings of a believable rumor.
For those wondering, Thanos has squared off against Doctor Doom in the pages of Marvel Comics before. In fact, in the 2015 event series Secret Wars, Thanos squared off against God Emperor Doom and found himself wanting. Though the reports don’t provide any details about what to expect from Thanos’ appearance in Avengers: Secret Wars, it wouldn’t be entirely surprising to see a Multiversal Variant of the character find himself in a similar predicament.
It’s hard to imagine Sony and Marvel Studios moving forward on a fourth Spider-Man film without Tom Holland and that’s probably why rumors of the star agreeing to a deal to stay on as the Web-Slinger preceded the release of Spider-Man: No Way Home which was his last contracted appearance. Though those rumors of a new deal were incredibly widespread, neither Holland nor anyone at Sony or Marvel ever confirmed the veracity of them. For his part, Holland has stayed the course, maintaining that while he’s interested in working with the studios on another film, he’d only move forward if it was a story worth telling.
All I can say is that we have been actively engaging in conversations about what it could potentially look like for a fourth rendition of my character. Whether or not we can find a way to do justice to the character is another thing. I feel very protective over Spider-Man. I feel very, very lucky that we were able to work on a franchise that got better with each movie, that got more successful with each movie, which I think is really rare, and I want to protect his legacy. So, I won’t make another one for the sake of making another one. It will have to be worth the while of the character.
With Spidey vets Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers reportedly back on board to script the fourth film and Destin Daniel Cretton set to direct, buzz is building around the project, especially with rumors of a 2025 start of production. While fans continue to wait for word on when Holland’s Peter Parker will return to the screen and start off a brand new phase of his career, the star has spoken out about the state of the project for this first time.
“We have a creative and a pitch and a draft which is excellent. It needs work but the writers are doing a great job and I read it three weeks ago and it really lit a fire in me,” said Holland in a wide-ranging interview with Rich Roll. “Zendaya and I sat down and read it together and we at times were like bouncing around the living room.” Holland continued, once again expressing concern for the legacy of the character, especially in the minds of fans. “Like this is a real movie worthy of the fans’ respect, but there [are] a few things we need to figure out before we can get that really going. But it’s exciting and I’m really, really excited about it.”
As a seasoned veteran of Marvel Studios’ projects, Holland is well aware that the story for Spider-Man 4 will serve as not only a Spidey sequel but also to set up the character’s next steps in the shared narrative. “Obviously, one of the things to like bear in mind with Marvel is that there is, your film is a small cog in a large machine, and that machine has got to keep running, and you need to make sure that you can fit into that timeline at the right time to benefit the bigger picture,” Holland explained. With Spider-Man reportedly set to play a large role in both Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars, it seems as though everyone has agreed upon where the sweet spot in the timeline is and that it’ll allow for a solid fourth installment in the Spidey franchise to pave the way. “I feel like I owe it to [fans] to give and deliver the best version of what the next chapter for Spider-Man looks like,” said Holland, “and I think that’s really important, and I think the creative integrity for something like that is really important, and the studio is on board and supportive and really collaborative.“
Despite how great all of that sounds, Holland did caution that while everyone is working in the right direction, it’s not quite go time yet. “I’ve been so blown away by how welcoming they’ve been into that creative room, but you know we’re working now, pedal is to the metal, we’re trying to get it going as soon as possible,” he said. “Things are looking great, but there’s still a lot of moving pieces that need to come together for us to hit the ground running.” Hopefully whatever needs to come together does so without a hitch, allowing Holland’s Spider-Man to make his way back to the MCU by 2026.
For the next few days, New York City will be the center of the pop culture world as NYCC ’24 gets underway. Though it’s typically not been used to deliver major breaking news about upcoming Marvel or DC projects, both studios have certainly promoted films and series in the past and will do so again this year.
In Marvel’s case, fans will be able to take visit a booth with a display of costumes from Marvel Television’s upcoming streaming series, Daredevil: Born Again. And while anything more may have seemed like wishful thinking, early arrivals at the event caught the first glimpse of a brand new Marvel logo that includes the first look at multiple characters expected to appear in upcoming projects.
The new logo, which is starting to pop up all over social media, not only gives fans great, new looks at Harrison Ford‘s Red Hulk, Anthony Mackie‘s Captain America and a few characters from the 2025 film Thunderbolts* but also a great shot of H.E.R.B.I.E., Jeff the Shark and Galacta, the daughter of Galactus.
New Marvel logo with Fantastic Four, Red Hulk, Thunderbolts*, and more on it at NYCC! pic.twitter.com/cpGdfpKiJd
Though it’s not been confirmed, it is incredibly likely that Jeff and Galacta are simply part of Marvel Comics’ presentation or their video game presentation. On the other hand, the logo also includes close up looks at Daredevil, Wilson Fisk from Daredevil: Born Again and the Human Torch who, along with H.E.R.B I.E., will be seen in 2025’s The Fantastic Four: First Steps. Additionally, the inclusion of characters from What If…? in the logo all but guarantees the third season of the canonical animated adventure will hit Disney Plus in 2025. As it stands, the studio’s 2025 slate currently includes:
With production on Marvel Studios and Sony’s Spider-Man 4 finally set to get underway in 2025, buzz around the project has been steadily growing over the past several months. Though the project has been in development since before Spider-Man: No Way Home hit theaters in 2022 and rumors about its potential plot have been popping up for almost as long, it wasn’t until Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton boarded the project following a rumored script overhaul that the wildest and most exciting rumors started to fly.
Once widely believed to be a team-up film featuring Spidey, Daredevil and other street-level heroes taking on Wilson Fisk, the latest word on the film’s script, by Spidey vets Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers, is that it will bring Sony’s Spidey-adjacent universe’s biggest star into the MCU and, along with him, one of the most terrifying villains to hit the pages of Marvel Comics in the last decade: Knull, the King in Black. Though there’s no confirmation of exactly what the actual plan is for Spider-Man 4, reports of screenings of Sony’s Venom: The Last Dance indicate that the film may indeed set up the prospects of an unprecedented studio crossover in which Tom Hardy‘s Eddie Brock finds himself fully integrated into the MCU and not just visiting for a short-term bender in Mexico. As the release date of Sony’s third and final installment in the Venom franchise draws near, Hardy was asked about the recent rumors and his response may be quite telling.
When asked by a reporter what the odds of Spider-Man showing up in Venom: The Last Dance might be, Hardy slyly responded by saying, “You know…you know, there are always possibilities. I couldn’t possibly say anything because this is the last movie.” Before moving on, Hardy added, “Yeah, I would love that.” As not only the star of the Venom franchise but also a writer and producer on The Last Dance, Hardy is in a unique position to know exactly what those possibilities are for this film and beyond.
This is just the beginning for Knull. We’re in spoiler territory now and we hope some of the fun of watching this movie is not knowing what will happen,but trust me, we know full well how important Knull is to the fans, so just as we laid a foundation for Venom, we hope we are doing the same for Knull.
–Venom: The Last Dance director Kelly Marcel
Despite Sony putting a bow on the Venom franchise in The Last Dance, director Kelly Marcel recently confirmed that Knull’s story is just beginning. However, with the two most popular symbiote (Venom and Carnage) apparently off the board, it would seem foolish–even for Sony–to try to move forward with a symbiote-centric story. But according to Marcel, “One movie could never do justice to Knull,” which means that somehow, someway, there’s more story to tell. With a piece of the Venom symbiote already on Earth-616 and Hardy’s Brock reportedly headed back to the MCU’s Sacred Timeline, it’s easy to draw the conclusion the the King in Black will find his way there as well.
Venom: The Last Dance may well be the final installment in Sony’s Tom Hardy-led franchise but it’s become clear that the studio isn’t done experimenting with symbiotes just yet. The Last Dance is set to introduce the Marvel Comics villain Knull, the creator of the symbiote race and one of the oldest and most evil characters in the cosmos. However, Knull does not have a large role in this film, with the studio choosing to introduce the character in order to set him up as a far greater threat to be dealt with down the road, something akin to what Marvel Studios did with Thanos in 2014’s Guardians of the Galaxy.
In an interview with IGN, Marcel seemingly confirmed the latest and greatest rumors about the future of the character, saying “This is just the beginning for Knull.” “We’re in spoiler territory now and we hope some of the fun of watching this movie is not knowing what will happen,” cautioned Marcel, “but trust me, we know full well how important Knull is to the fans, so just as we laid a foundation for Venom, we hope we are doing the same for Knull.
“The King in Black is way too powerful for ‘one and done.’ This film introduces Knull, but it just touches the beginnings of his story,” explained Marcel before comparing the studio’s plans for Knull to those of Marvel Studio’s greatest film villains, saying, “Marvel’s greatest film villains are developed over time. Here, Knull is the threat lurking behind the danger that tests the absolute limits of Eddie and Venom’s partnership — but it’s their relationship that remains the heart of this story.”
Knowing that Knull is after his creations and that part of Eddie Brock’s symbiote was left behind on Earth-616 after his brief trip there certainly helps add fuel to the fire that Knull could eventually find his way into the MCU. And while Marcel doesn’t confirm it, she gives room for hope that one of Marvel Comics’ recent crossover events could unfold in Spider-Man 4. “As the fans know there are many, many more symbiote stories — the universe is wide and rich, and one movie could never do justice to Knull,” teased Marcel. “Beyond this trilogy, there are more stories to explore – God is coming.“
Don Cheadle‘s MCU debut as James Rhodes in Iron Man 2 was played as an ironic, in-universe joke meant to make light of him replacing Terrance Howard in the role. Over a decade later, it’s starting to seem as though Cheadle’s latest appearance may end up being his last and, unfortunately, an unironic joke.
Cheadle played a supporting role in the universally panned Disney Plus streaming series Secret Invasion. As revealed at D23 2022, Rhodey’s role in the series was intended to directly tie into Armor Wars, a Rhodey-centric project first announced during Disney’s 2020 Investor Day presentation. Originally conceived as a streaming series, the studio began developing Armor Wars as a film when, according to Marvel Parliament member Nate Moore, they realized “it felt too big for that show.“
Our Disney+ shows are awesome and we love them, but the budgets are not the same as the features, that’s not secret. And when you’re talking about a show that wants to be about seeing all the cool armors, and Don Cheadle interacting with all these armors, and the legacy of Tony Stark, that became cost-prohibitive to do as a show.
-Nate Moore
Indeed, according to Moore, the studio’s plans for Armor Wars had grown so large that the project would not only connect to Secret Invasion but also “affect other movies down the line.“
And we realized as a feature, not only can we get into some of the beautiful imagery that is from publishing and there’s certainly an Armor Wars run, but also there’s ways then to leverage the ideas of that movie that affect other movies down the line. So it becomes a multiplication really of, once you figure out what is cool about something…
-Nate Moore
Now, it’s beginning to look like that line of movies that were set to be affected by Armor Wars might just have to find another project to be products of. In an interview with TV Line, Cheadle cast some incredibly serious doubt on whether or not Armor Wars will ever see the light of day.
When asked if he knew where Armor Wars stood on the studio’s rapidly evolving slate, Cheadle replied, “You can find out and let me know.” When TV Line followed up by indicating the last real news on the project was that it had “switched from a TV series to a movie”, Cheadle made it clear that Rhodey’s solo project was not happening anytime soon. “Yeah. I think the word that’s the most salient in that sentence is “switched.” [Laughs] I don’t know, I’m not sure where anything is right now. I think things are going through a lot of changes, and we’ll see what happens, we’ll see what it is.“
Even the most optimistic interpretation of Cheadle’s comments would not leave much room for hope that Armor Wars remains a priority for Marvel Studios as they look to wrap up the Multiverse Saga and further comment from Cheadle does nothing to change that. After being asked about how the revelation that the Rhodey seen in Secret Invasion was a Skrull, meaning there’s no real indication of when the last time any significant time had been spent with the character, Cheadle replied, “Yeah, no shit.” The star then went on to explain that while he was willing to take the detour in Secret Invasion, it certainly seemed like it was part of a package deal that included Armor Wars.”Uh… you know, there was no… it wasn’t a demand. It was a request. “What do you think about playing this?” And it was to set up stuff in the following thing,” explained Cheadle. “So, if the following thing happens, and all those things were set up, then that’s one thing. If, as you said, it doesn’t, then we can talk about how I feel about it after!” As the studio looks to move ahead, it seems more and more likely that Armor Wars has been left behind.
For MCU fans who are also comic book fans or those who spend a great deal of time online, the identity of Joe Locke‘s Teen was never truly a mystery over the first 5 episodes of Agatha All Along. More casual fans, however, may have found themselves a bit more engaged in the series’ fun teases that led to the revelation in Episode 5 that Teen was a powerful witch in his own right. While the episode’s ending, which showed Teen in a magical blue crown, was all the confirmation most fans needed of who Locke was playing, Marvel Studios has erased all doubt ahead of Episode 6.
In a post shared across its various social media platforms, Marvel Studios has confirmed that Locke is playing Billy Maximoff, the son of Wanda Maximoff, the Scarlet Witch!
Though the secret was out long ago, series’ creator Jac Schaeffer and the writing room did an admirable job of attempting to lead the audience in other directions. Those misdirects worked so well that, according to Locke, the majority of fans missed a tease that linked his character to Wanda in one of the series’ earlier episodes: his mother’s crown stitched into the back of his sweater.
You can do the most unsurprising thing in the most surprising way, and that’s how you hook an audience.
-Joe Locke on his character reveal in Agatha All Along
As the series heads into the back half, Locke, now free from the stress of keeping secrets, teases how the shift in power dynamics will play a major role moving forward. “The show starts with Billy being very much the familiar, the secondary to all the witches. Now we know he is also a witch, and that changes things,” explained Locke. “Also, we now know that he has the ability to cause harm to them. Therefore, he is now the most powerful person on the Road. What does that change in the dynamic of the group and how does that change the future of those relationships?“
Just how powerful is the most powerful person on the Road? Fans of the comics may have already figured that out and given the character’s ability in the comics to manipulate reality, they may well be right…
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