When news first broke that Matthew Lillard was joining Daredevil: Born Again Season 2, the fancasts went wild—was he the new Norman Osborn? A live-action Alistair Smythe? But as the premiere draws near, the reality is much more interesting. Lillard isn’t playing a costumed man; he’s playing the man who makes the costumes possible.
Lillard’s Mr. Charles–who he describes as having a “Cheshire Cat energy” and a level of chill that should terrify every other player on the board–is exactly the type of character the actor would never be expected to portray.
Lillard found his way to Hell’s Kitchen via a relationship with showrunner Dario Scardapane that originated from the pair’s shared love of Dungeons & Dragons. “I am the Dungeon Master for all these incredibly powerful showrunners,” Lillard joked. Scardapane apparently liked Lillard’s ability to shape a narrative so much that he wrote the role of Mr. Charles specifically to “plus up” the veteran actor’s unique energy.

Mr. Charles is described as a “CIA-style spook” and a global power broker. While Wilson Fisk is busy playing Mayor of New York, Mr. Charles is playing a different game on an international stage. In a world where everyone is terrified of the Kingpin, Mr. Charles is notably “unimpressed.” Lillard teased a “delicious struggle over power” between himself and Vincent D’Onofrio, noting that his character sees Fisk as a big fish in a very small, local pond. And in an interesting bit of tethering, Scardapane has confirmed that Mr. Charles reports directly to Valentina Allegra de Fontaine. He exists in the “Val world,” effectively linking the events of Born Again to the larger Thunderbolts* and narrative. So, apparently, it’s all connected again.
Despite the high stakes, Scardapane says the scariest thing about Mr. Charles is how “regular” he looks. He’s the guy wearing a plaid button-up and slacks to a tense dinner at Gracie Mansion, completely relaxed while everyone else is buttoned-down and bleeding. Lillard himself admits he’s “chewing scenery” in a world that is otherwise incredibly grounded and tense.
Whether Mr. Charles is there to help Fisk or pave the way for his replacement remains among the season’s biggest mysteries.














