Tag: Namor

  • Ryan Coogler Reveals a Key Weakness of Namor’s in ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’

    Ryan Coogler Reveals a Key Weakness of Namor’s in ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’

    Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is set to introduce one of Marvel Comics’ oldest characters into the MCU, but with a unique twist. The sequel will see Namor, known in the comics as the Sub-Mariner, come into conflict with the nation of Wakanda. However, instead of being the ruler of Atlantis, this iteration of Namor rules an underwater nation known as Talokan.

    Namor has long kept his nation secret but the events of Wakanda Forever threaten that secrecy, bringing the winged-footed mutant to the shores of Wakanda. He’s already been seen flying in the trailers and showcasing some pretty impressive resiliency, but from what director Ryan Coogler says, audiences haven’t seen it all just yet.

    [There’s] no equal in terms of his capabilities, being able to breathe underwater and breathe at high altitudes and walk around on land. He’s incredibly strong, he’s as strong as Thor, and if he’s around enough water he can be as strong as the Hulk.

    Ryan Coogler

    Despite all the changes to the character and the creation of a new underwater nation, Coogler’s comments do seem to highlight one of Namor’s classic weaknesses from the old comics: his need to return to the water to regain his strength. If he’s away from the water for too long, not only would Namor be weak, it could be fatal. This is a flaw that was exposed by some of Marvel Comics heroes and villains in the past, so it’s possible that it may come into play in the film, which releases in theaters on November 11th.

    Source: Marvel.com

  • Ryan Coogler Reserved the Use of Namor Since the First ‘Black Panther’

    Ryan Coogler Reserved the Use of Namor Since the First ‘Black Panther’

    Namor is about to make his Marvel Cinematic Universe debut in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever and it seems that director Ryan Coogler has pretty much reserved the use of this character since the first entry. In an interview with Slash Film, Marvel Studios producer Nate Moore reveals that Coogler asked for the rights to use the character if he got to make a sequel.

    Ryan is a huge fan of comic books, and in publishing, Namor and Atlantis often would come in conflict with Wakanda and the Black Panther. And so even as early as in post-production on the first movie, he was like, ‘If we get so lucky, could we maybe, could I just raise my hand and make sure no one uses Namor?’ And luckily, nobody was, and he had a great idea for it very early on. So we started building towards that idea, which I think is really fun.

    Nate Moore

    It definitely was hinted in the past that he’s had the character on his mind since the first film. At one point they even tried to include a tease of his arrival in a post-credit sequence that was eventually scrapped. Marvel Studios has been interested in adapting the character for almost 18 years according to Kevin Feige but never found the right idea to bring him to the silvers screen. Luckily, it seems that Coogler‘s patience paid off and no one else had the right pitch before him.

    Source: Slash Film

  • Marvel Studios President Plays Coy on Potential ‘Namor’ Spinoff

    Marvel Studios President Plays Coy on Potential ‘Namor’ Spinoff

    Namor is a big character in the comics, who has had quite a few comics under his belt. So, the character making his Marvel Cinematic Universe debut in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever opened up the question if we could also expect a solo project in the near future. Theories have gone wild online on what they may do with the soon-to-be-introduced Talokan

    Twitter user @namorcosplay got a chance to interview Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige during the red-carpet premiere of Wakanda Forever on a potential solo spinoff and he definitely didn’t give away any potential plans. His only reaction was a quick “we’ll see, depends on this” while pointing at the theater where the premiere is taking place.

    While many like to point out that Marvel Studios has plans mapped out for years, they do also keep a close eye on how reactions develop or even if someone comes in to pitch an idea for a project. Such as with how Armor Wars turned into a film from a Diosney+ series, Marvel Studios isn’t as strict as they seemingly tend to be seen as with their Phase announcements.

    We’ll see if they may wait until the next SDCC or bigger event to announce that Namor is getting his own spinoff. It would be a shame not to further explore the world they are introducing in the film, especially with Namor uncovering his place in the wider MCU. Still, we’ll have to wait until Marvel Studios makes an official announcement.

    Source: Twitter

  • ‘Wakanda Forever’ Executive Producer Teases the New Meaning of Namor’s Name

    ‘Wakanda Forever’ Executive Producer Teases the New Meaning of Namor’s Name

    One of Marvel’s first characters, Namor, is going through quite a bit of a change in his introduction to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Tenoch Huerta will take on the iconic role that is now strongly inspired by Mayan culture. The first teasers for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever teased his new design and went on to reveal that his own people of Talocan describe him as a God. Yet, we never heard him referred to as Namor.

    As it turns out, the team behind Wakanda Forever may have found a clever way to establish his name, as revealed by executive producer Victoria Alonso. It seems that the meaning of Namor’s name is short for “El niño sin amor” which means “the boy who grew up without love.”

    It definitely is a clever way to find way to still use his name of “Namor” and tie it once again to the new origin. In some way, it also seems like the title of the name may tie into his story of the Black Panther sequel. He likely is a child of two worlds, especially with a massive tease of a burning home in the first trailer, and that he lost his family before becoming the leader of an underwater kingdom.

    Marvel continues to showcase how they can cleverly reinterpret these characters that have existed for countless years. It not only adds new layers to these characters but also offers some unique takes that make them stand out. The Mayan-inspiration also makes one of the most interesting additions that could open up many more new takes on classic Namor storylines for the future. So, we’ll see what the future has in store for Huerta‘s take on the character.

    Source: Twitter

  • Marvel Studios Wanted to Adapt Namor for 18 Years

    Marvel Studios Wanted to Adapt Namor for 18 Years

    Namor is finally making his Marel Cinematic Universe in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever. While the character is known as one of the first ever introduced into the Marvel canon, it still took Marvel Studios some time to finally get the right project together that would introduce the character to the world. As it turns out, Marvel had the character on their list for almost 18 years and was hoping to get the character to live-action even in the days before the current MCU was formed.

    Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige doesn’t go into details during the red carpet event for Wakanda Forever but does highlight that they’ve been trying to find the right idea to bring the character to life. Luckily, it seems that Ryan Coogler already pitched the idea of a war between kingdoms during the first Black Panther film and went on to develop the more culturally distinct take on the character for this sequel.

    Forever it’s been on our list. I remember 18 years ago putting together a list, I think we even commissioned a script 18 years ago. And the timing was never right and the idea was never right. Ryan Coogler on the first movie started pitching wars between kingdoms. And if you actually added a cultural specificity to Namor, and that’s certainly what he has done in this movie. It’s not Atlantis, it’s Talokan.

    Kevin Feige

    It definitely seems like the wait was well worth it, as it both only did it lead to a very distinct take on the character but a powerful performance by Tenoch Huerta going by early reactions. We still have to wait a little longer for the film’s release but it’s definitely going to be quite the experience once it hits theaters on November 11th and who knows what the future has in store for the character moving forward.

    Source: Twitter

  • Tenoch Huerta on Whether or Not Namor is the Villain of ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’

    Tenoch Huerta on Whether or Not Namor is the Villain of ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever’

    With Black Panther: Wakanda Forever having its World Premiere last night, the world now waits in anticipation for its turn to see the Marvel Studios sequel. One of the major standouts from the early reactions has been Tenoch Huerta, who portrays film’s main antagonist: Namor the Sub-Mariner. While talking with Variety during the premiere’s red carpet, this is what Huerta, disagreed with the notion that he’s the villain of the film.

    This is a guy who protects his people, his culture, every meaningful thing in his kingdom. From my perspective, everyone around the world can identify with this. So I don’t know if he’s a “villain” or is just a guy trying whatever the cost is to protect.

    Tenoch Huerta

    The concept of relatability has been a generally consistent factor with some of the best Marvel Cinematic Universe villains, and it certainly is an exciting notion to hear about this trait with Namor. One of the most compelling elements of Namor and the whole of Talokan in Wakanda Forever is the heavy influence of Mayan culture on their civilization. It provides Ryan Coogler with the opportunity to world-build another historically-based culture into the Marvel Cinematic Universe made up of generally underrepresented peoples in the film industry. This is a concept that Huerta has definitely appreciated when it comes to this film.

    It’s important for the people to see themselves in the movies in this way. It was made with a lot of respect for the Mesoamerican culture, especially Mayan culture. It’s the root of almost everybody Latin American. We have indigineous roots, we have black roots, and a few white roots. But it’s fantastic to be here and represent this kind of movie.

    Tenoch Huerta

    Black Panther: Wakanda Forever opens exclusively in theaters on November 11. You can take a look at a collection of first impressions of the film here

  • Latest ‘Wakanda Forever’ Merch Focuses Teases Namor’s Iconic Battle Cry

    Latest ‘Wakanda Forever’ Merch Focuses Teases Namor’s Iconic Battle Cry

    While a lot of discussions surrounding Marvel Studios’ upcoming Black panther sequel, Wakanda Forever, focused on how they’ll juggle whoever may take on the mantle, there’s one more big element they are making sure no one forgets. The sequel will act as the introduction of Namor the Submariner into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and it seems he’s getting quite the spotlight in some of their latest merchandise reveals. Among them is the confirmation that he’ll also get to use his iconic battle cry “Imperius Rex.”

    As shared by @NamorNews, we get a bunch of new designs highlighting the three main members of the MCU’s take on Atlantis. We see some familiar artwork of Attuma, Namora, and Namor but the newest addition is the fact that his battle cry is added to some of the designs. It’s the first time we’ve seen it used and it may confirm that we’ll get the shout at least once during the upcoming film.

    It’s great to see the elements they are taking from the comics. Even while they changed the character’s cultural background, it opened up the concept to stand out while still pulling in elements from the character’s comic origin. Marvel and director Ryan Coogler managed to even get his iconic green pants as part of his design with the little feet wings hinted at in the first trailer. Here’s hoping that the next trailer potentially offers a bit more from the character and shows us how dangerous he’ll be when facing against the nation of Wakanda.

    Source: Twitter

  • First ‘Black Panther’s Post-Credit Almost Included Namor

    First ‘Black Panther’s Post-Credit Almost Included Namor

    It’s no secret that the upcoming sequel of Black Panther will introduce the world to Namor the Submariner, played by Tenoch Huerta. We’ve heard news throughout the last few years that there were many times they thought of including him, such as a member of the Illuminati in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Yet, it turns out the earliest we could’ve seen him was all the way back when the first Black Panther film hit theaters.

    In a new piece from Empire, Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige reveals that they initially had plans for a post-credit sequence that would set up the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s take on the character. It seems director Ryan Coogler initially pitched it as a tag, which means this sequel’s main story has been on his mind since he started work on the very first entry.

    Ryan had a pitch for a tag at the end of Black Panther. The camera would push through the palace in Wakanda, and then we’d see wet footprints leading up to the throne.

    Kevin Feige

    It definitely would’ve made for an imposing tease though open many questions on how he got past the Dora Milaje. Still, it would be the perfect way to tease the character without giving away any details, which would’ve led to casual audiences having to question who exactly the person might be. Coogler having that character in mind so early on also makes us wonder if he generally mapped out a full trilogy for the franchise and if he’ll follow through with those initial plans if he kept Namor in his back pocket up until now.

    Source: Empire

  • Tenoch Huerta Teases Namor Has “Deep Admiration” For Chadwick Boseman’s T’Challa

    Tenoch Huerta Teases Namor Has “Deep Admiration” For Chadwick Boseman’s T’Challa

    Tenoch Huerta is about to have his moment. The actor is set to debut as Namor the Sub-Mariner in this year’s Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, a role that will likely propel him into mainstream fame, but Huerta‘s mind is still focused on those who came before him. In an interview with Black Girl Nerds, the former Narcos: Mexico star explained that both himself and his character have a deep admiration for the late Chadwick Boseman‘s King T’Challa:

    Well, my character, and personally, it is fun, because my character has a deep admiration for Black Panther… T’Challa… But, me as an actor and as a simple human being, what Chadwick means: so powerful, so deep, it’s extraordinary. And it’s… Yeah, it’s a big inspiration.

    Tenoch Huerta

    Boseman passed away after a courageous battle with cancer in 2020, leaving a big hole to fill in Wakanda Forever. Namor, ruler of a fictional undersea nation, will help fill the void, but as Huerta states beautifully, nobody will ever truly replace Boseman‘s impact on the franchise or the world at large:

    So, in different levels, in the fiction and the real life, [to] be part of this and feel his presence… through the legacy, through the people who [were] involved in this project is fantastic. As I mentioned a moment before, it’s like his shadow is in the wall. So you line the shadow, and then you put a lot of colors, and music, and love, and you are part of that because it’s your colors as well. You know, your culture, your music is there, and it’s beautiful [to] be part of that, you know what I mean?

    Tenoch Huerta

    It seems Huerta enjoyed his time working on the film, and his comments continue to solidify the idea that the Black Panther sequel will still very much involve Boseman‘s influence. In the comics, Namor and T’Challa have a longstanding relationship that’s been both friendly and volatile at different points in time. This dynamic will unfortunately not be realized on the big screen, but the door is wide open for whoever ends up donning the Black Panther mantle to craft a new form of rivalry with the Sub-Mariner.

    Source: Black Girl Nerds

  • Fish Out of Water: Every Failed Attempt at Bringing ‘Namor’ to Life

    Fish Out of Water: Every Failed Attempt at Bringing ‘Namor’ to Life

    With the release of Black Panther: Wakanda Forever on November 11th, director Ryan Coogler and producer Kevin Feige will have managed to pull off the one thing it felt like Hollywood would never allow to happen – Namor on the big screen. Marvel’s first Avenging Son, often referred to as the Sub-Mariner, has been on the cusp of live-action glory since the 1950s, but somehow, every previous attempt at bringing the character to life has faltered before coming to actual fruition. Now, Tenoch Huerta is set to join the Marvel Cinematic Universe in one of the franchise’s original flagship roles, putting a new spin on a character that’s been around since the dawn of comics. Though, before fans take a dive into the actor’s wave-making MCU debut, they could stand to learn a thing or two about the long history of failed attempts that kept Namor out of the spotlight for decades on end.

    Television

    Namor was introduced by Bill Everett in 1939’s Marvel Comics #1 as the antithesis for the comic’s protagonist, the original Human Torch. This made him Marvel’s first ever supervillain, albeit backed by the noble cause of protecting Atlantis and its citizens. Much to the company’s surprise, however, the Sub-Mariner became popular with readers who sympathized with his motives, and the character was quickly shifted from outright baddie to full-blown antihero status. The move resulted in Namor receiving his own published title and becoming something of a phenomenon, churning out book sales on par with Timely Comics’ other major player, Captain America.

    So, it didn’t take long for some television executives to decide that Namor deserved the same kind of live-action treatment Captain America got with Dick Purcell in his 1944 serial. The success of George Reeves‘ Man of Steel series was also a big factor, with producer Frank Saperstein (or Saverstein) believing that, “if you could do it with Superman, you could do it with The Sub-Mariner. According to a late 1960’s interview with creator Everett, conducted by former Marvel Editor-in-Chief Roy Thomas, the Goodson-Todman production company was interested in adapting Namor to low-budget TV in 1954, with Saperstein, a huge fan of the character, paving the way. Everett was brought on board as a story consultant, with final say over scripts, and B-movie star Richard Egan had agreed to take the lead role.

    The plan was to use the initial antihero version of Namor, not the more heroic interpretation that was favored during World War II, and bring him into “modern” situations. Unfortunately, alleged behind-the-scenes drama over unmet demands caused the creative ship to sink before it ever set sail, and The Sub-Mariner remained confined to the pages of comics. Interestingly, there have been claims that a separate live-action Namor pilot was planned to be filmed sometime in the 1970s, but canceled when executives realized the concept was too similar to NBC’s short-lived series Man From Atlantis. Although, there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of reputable sources backing this up, so take that one with a grain of salt for now.

    *Note: Much of the information about the 1950s Sub-Mariner project given by Bill Everett is disputable. The writer wasn’t lying, but it’s entirely possible he misremembered some of the details regarding what happened during the series’ whirlwind production. For example, he states a producer named Frank Saperstein approached him about adapting Namor, but a quick search reveals nobody was working in the industry under that name at the time. It’s very possible Everett was actually talking about director Frank Satenstein, who worked with Goodson-Todman at the time these events took place.

    Namor: Sub-Mariner

    After Namor’s television exploits failed to materialize, his comic series wound up being scrapped and, instead of achieving the worldwide fame he’d once seemed destined for, the character fell into relative obscurity. Then, a 1997 article from Variety casually revealed to fans that Philip Kaufman, an auteur known for his range with films like The Right Stuff and Invasion of the Body Snatchers, was developing a movie titled Namor: Sub-Mariner as part of Marvel Studios’ original production slate. The filmmaker would have directed the project from a script by Sam Hamm, who also wrote 1989’s Batman, and hoped to center the story around Namor’s “certain bad feelings toward the people up above, on Earth, because of his ecological concerns“. Regrettably, not much more was ever revealed about Namor’s potential cinematic debut, and it seems whatever Kaufman had planned fizzled out within a couple years.

    Namor, the Sub-Mariner

    At some point, after Kaufman‘s work on the character had ceased, Saban Entertainment took a crack at the underwater hero with Randall Frakes handling the screenplay. The writer was best known for his work with director James Cameron on films like Aliens and Terminator 2: Judgement Day, and was then crafting a new story under the title Namor, the Sub-Mariner. The news broke by way of an entirely different announcement, that Frakes had signed with Ember Entertainment, and nothing more was heard about the script after.

    Sub-Mariner

    By 2001, then-Marvel Studios President Avi Arad and Kevin Misher had made plans to sell Namor’s film rights to Universal and act as producers on whatever movie the company came up with. Arad was confident in the Sub-Mariner’s bankability, saying he felt the antihero could make for a massive franchise that dealt with the world’s true final frontier – the ocean. He also echoed sentiments made by Kaufman during the prior attempt at adapting the character, explaining that Universal had a chance to tell a Namor story dealing with a lot of real-world problems:

    Even though it was first published in 1941, Sub-Mariner has modern-day implications because if you look at the undersea and what’s happening there, you have to address such issues as Exxon Valdez and the oil spill, undersea bomb testing, pollution and global warming… The ocean is a source of food, medicine, energy and scientific study, so we are dealing here with issues that are at the forefront of today’s society. This project is a very real story told through the eyes of someone who has to not only understand humans but has to protect his own people.

    Avi Arad

    Misher was more focused on who might be attached to the film, naming the aforementioned Cameron as his ideal director and Jude Law as his pick for the titular character. Road to Perdition‘s David Self was hired to write the script in 2002, and Chris Columbus signed on to helm the movie under the name Sub-Mariner two years later for a projected 2007 release. Sadly, intense burnout from making the first two Harry Potter films caused Columbus to drop out of directing Sub-Mariner in 2005, and the whole of production soon followed him down the drain and out of theaters.

    The Sub-Mariner

    Marvel Studios and Universal moved on rather quickly, securing Jonathan Mostow to write and direct a new version of the Namor origin in 2006. Now titled The Sub-Mariner, the film would tinker with the character’s classic roots and remove him from his upbringing in Atlantis. Instead, Mostow‘s script would see Namor as a young surface-dweller who discovers he “actually is a prince from Atlantis, with him turning out to be the key man in a brewing war between the underwater world and the modern surface world“, according to a statement released by The Hollywood Reporter at the time. At this point, Kevin Feige had entered the mix as Marvel Studios chief, and stepped in to say the film’s “spectacle will be tempered with character. Our hero is caught between two worlds. That is the heart of the story, and it is that dichotomy that makes him so interesting“.

    Mostow, who is best known for directing the critically-panned Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, remained committed to the project until at least 2009. While on the press tour for his film Surrogates, the filmmaker reiterated that The Sub-Mariner would eventually be made and that the only thing holding them back was an inability to crack the script. He also commented that Universal was continually renewing their option to produce a big screen adaptation of Namor, something that ultimately prevented Feige and the ever-growing Marvel Studios from taking the reigns themselves and making a film all on their own.

    Of course, this would become the topic of much debate over the course of the next decade. After years of radio silence, it became clear that The Sub-Mariner would never see the light of day, but the belief in whether or not Universal stilled owned the character’s film rights was constantly in flux. From 2010 until as recently as 2018, a number of high-ranking Marvel and Hollywood figures gave differing information on Namor’s cinematic status. Marvel Entertainment CCO Joe Quesada and THR’s Borys Kit both made claims that Marvel had the rights back in the early 2010’s, but Feige spent most of that era staunchly sticking to his guns that prior deals with Universal would make an MCU Namor film nearly impossible. On top of it all, there was even a strange, brief moment when an unknown project, also titled The Sub-Mariner, was listed as entering production in 2017, with no studio specified.

    Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

    With marketing for Wakanda Forever kicking up, however, it seems the days of Namor’s live-action limbo are over. The character will appear as the antagonist in the Black Panther sequel, bringing to life a longstanding comic book feud between Atlantis and Wakanda. Based on what promotional material has shown the public, it appears the MCU will opt to alter the origins of Namor and his people, giving them a connection to real-world history and bringing them more in line with the Black Panther series’ cultural themes. It’s unknown if this debut will lead to some sort of solo project down the line, or if those pesky behind-the-scenes complications are still preventing the Sub-Mariner from headlining his own film. It’s possible that Namor can be a featured character in Marvel Studios productions, but can’t have his name in a title without involvement from Universal – a situation similar to the one that confined Mark Ruffalo‘s Hulk to team-ups for over a decade. Either way, it’ll be nice to finally see one of Marvel’s very first marquee names get the spotlight, even if it’s only as Black Panther’s latest foil.

    Source(s): Alter Ego, Variety, SFGate, IGN, Entertainment Weekly, Superhero Hype, Collider, Production Weekly