Here’s a rather interesting surprise. CinemaBlend shared their interviews for the upcoming release of Spider-Man: No Way Home. They got a chance to sit down with Kevin Feige and Amy Pascal about the leaks and rumors that hit the Internet. They also got a chance to sit down with Jacob Batalon, Zendaya, and Tom Holland to discuss the upcoming release. Of course, after Venom: Let There Be Carnage released that post-credit sequence, he was asked about his appearance in the spinoff. Luckily, he offered an interesting insight into how it came together, as he states that:
I was on set, Amy Pascal came over to me and had a conversation about it. I was very excited. Tom Hardy came to set only a few days later to film his side of the Venom tag.
Tom Holland
So, it’s interesting that Tom Hardy filmed his post-credit sequence on the No Way Home set. Holland doesn’t appear in person but rather on a TV screen. So, it does open up the question of why he would go out of his way to film there. Perhaps he’ll have an appearance in the upcoming threequel, as part of a post-credit sequence, as Holland says he “filmed his side of the Venom tag.”
The third entry in the MCU film will introduce the multiverse into Spider-Man’s story. It’s uncertain if this opens up to future storylines or rather remains as a special occurrence during this project. The way Venom arrives in the MCU is still a bit unclear and we’ll see if a third entry might open up what his role is moving forward.
Venom: Let There Be Carnage ended on quite an interesting cliffhanger. Our favorite unlikely duo finds themselves in a seemingly new world and we get the first hint at a confrontation with Peter Parker. Venom even seems to recognize him even though they’ve never encountered each other in the series.
So, it had everyone’s eyebrows raised what it might mean for a third installment. We didn’t even know if a third one was in some kind of form of development. Luckily, in an interview with Collider, Spider-Man: No Way Home producer Amy Pascal confirmed that it’s already in early development.
We are in the planning stages right now but what we are focused on is getting everybody to come and see No Way Home.
Amy Pascal
It was only a question of time before we get an official confirmation if you consider that it had one of the strongest openings of the year. It’ll be interesting to see how they tackle this project and what it might mean for the franchise’s future once they start interconnecting their various Marvel projects more moving forward.
Since the very first Venom film, fans have wondered just when the character would be making his way to the Marvel Cinematic Universe and would face off against Spider-Man. We know he is part of Sony’s Spider-Man Universe, but not quite how that interconnects with the MCU. Yet, the post-credit scene for Venom: Let There Be Carnage changed everything.
At the tail end of the film, Eddie and Venom are relaxing and blowing off some steam. Suddenly, something begins to happen around them and before they know it the room their in isn’t the same. The TV pops on and fans were shown the one thing they’ve been dying to see, Venom’s arrival into the MCU. Collider recently spoke with Kevin Feige in which he talked about just how they handled it
You look at the obvious comic connotations between Venom and Spider-Man and it is inherent. So the minute Sony made their Venom movie and it worked as well as it did, and Tom Hardy became as iconic as he has become as Venom, then the obvious question is then, ‘How do we start to merge them?’
As the world continues to deal with the coronavirus, movie theaters are still struggling to bring in audiences. When it comes to comic book movies pre-pandemic, it wasn’t hard to imagine a film surpassing $300 million domestically. Now, though, most are lucky to cross the $100 million mark.
In 2021, only two films have crossed $200 million domestically. The first is Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, which achieved the feat in October, a month into its release. The second is Venom: Let There be Carnage, which officially achieved the feat as of today, a little over a month into its release. Shang-Chi, now available on Disney+, looks to end its theatrical run with $224.4 million domestically. While Venom is now at $202.4 million as of its 7th outing.
It remains to be seen how far Venom: Let There be Carnage will go. As it stands, the film has a fair share of competition in Marvel Studios’ Eternals, which is in its second weekend. That film pulled in another $28 million, helping it cross $100 million domestically as of today. Eternals, of course, should continue to pull in viewers until Spider-Man: No Way Home hits theaters next month. That film, of course, is more than likely to give Sony a second $200 million+ release this year.
Venom:Let There be Carnage is still playing in theaters.
Even after some negative reception, the first Venom film garnered quite a bit of momentum at the box office. Looks like it’s the same case for its sequel Let There Be Carnage, as it just passed the $400M mark in its global box office. Domestically it garnered $191.6M and added another $212.5M internationally. So, there’s nothing in the way of a sequel announcement in the near future, especially if you consider Sony already added a few new Marvel listings to their upcoming release slate of 2023.
Tom Hardy’s return as Eddie Brock led to the highest opening domestically with $90.1M. On top of that, it’s the second-best for an October release even from before the pandemic hit. It also had the strongest opening in Russia since theaters locked down and were Sony’s best performer there. With $31.4M it’s in the top ten earners of that market.
It’s been doing quite well internationally, as its the second biggest opener in markets that includes Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, Central America, Ecuador, and many more. Currently, it is tracking ahead of other block buster releases of the year, which is a good indicator that the market has finally been healing. A Chinese release however is uncertain even though the last film opened there to an impressive $269M. At this rate, it may near the $500M mark by the end of its run.
The numbers are in and Venom: Let There Be Carnage seems to be facing a harsh drop in its second weekend. The sequel pulled in around $8.85M this Friday, which is a drop of 76%. As of now, the film is eyeing around $32.49M, which puts it at a total drop of around 64%. In comparison, the first Venom was able to hold at around 9.8M in 2018. It had less competition at the time, as its sequel faces off against the final Daniel Craig-led James Bond film, No Time to Die. It’s only slightly below Spider-Man: Homecoming‘s 62% back in 2017. It may potentially have a leggier run just like the Spidey flick. Still, for now, the film is eyeing a 30M second weekend.
Right now, it seems like the film could manage around $180M by the end of its run. It managed to pass the $100M mark in just a few days and was on par with Shang-Chi‘s developments after premiering with $90M. There’s a chance it could hit the $200M range if it has a similar multiplier like Black Widow, but the following weeks will offer a clearer picture.
No Time To Die is eyeing the top spot with a $60M but is also far behind earlier expectations. Still, Forbes’ Scott Mendelsohn highlights that its current development is on par with pre-pandemic only suffering around a 15% loss due to COVID. Its competition, Shang-Chi and Addams Family 2 were still holding surprisingly firm over the weekend. The former even got a bit of a rebound this Friday and is eyeing a still-impressive $4.37M.
The following article contains spoilers on the film’s plot, ending, andpost-credit sequence. If you still haven’t seen the film, only continue at your own risk.
Perhaps the greatest strength of Venom: Let There Be Carnage is its willingness to embrace the absurd. A symbiote makes pancakes, a man licks a spider, and a combination of the two bellows the film’s title before credits roll. It’s pure scripted chaos, mixed with appropriately goofy performances from stars Tom Hardy and Woody Harrelson. This is why the film’s choice to not fully embrace its villain is so baffling.
Carnage has long been one of Marvel’s meanest rogues, and that doesn’t change here. The red symbiote is portrayed as giddily sadistic and all-out ill-willed as one would hope. Yet, something about the character feels less imposing than it should. The lack of R-rated violence, which some fans have wondered about since the announcement, is an easy first guess when it comes to pinpointing the problem. Yet, it’s not a loss for blood that throws Carnage out of whack. It’s something much deeper than that, in connection to the film’s central themes. It’s the relationship between Carnage and host buddy Cletus Kasady that truly serves to incapacitate the first live-action adaptation of Venom’s greatest adversary.
It feels ridiculous to say, but Venom: Let There Be Carnage is a relationship drama first and comic book action second. This is not an issue with the movie, which actually uses the love and bond between protagonists Eddie Brock and Venom to its advantage on many occasions. Unfortunately, where the story knows exactly how to play to Eddie and Venom’s strengths, it fails to understand what makes Cletus and Carnage so unique. Whereas the Venom symbiote has spent much of it’s existence bouncing from host to host, viewing itself as a separate entity from the bodies it inhabits, the Carnage symbiote was born to one man and one man alone. Unlike his father, Carnage has never been a “we” guy, and neither has Cletus.
While Carnage’s erratic fighting style and lust for death are a major part of what makes him dangerous, it’s his absolute unified bond with Cletus that truly makes him so terrifying. Their perfect relationship is the chainmail protecting an already pretty-dang-powerful set of armor. In an attempt to make their antagonist more susceptible to defeat, and perhaps even a little more relatable to audiences, the film stripped the character of his hallmark and turned “them” into an emotionally cruel couple. This works to a degree for the movie’s lovesick, abused version of serial killer Kasady, but it certainly weakens the screen presence of a character that should have been among Sony’s biggest bad guys.
The link between Cletus and Carnage could have been used as a dark foil for Eddie and Venom. A sickened, Terminator-esque peek into what a symbiote can do when left unchecked or even urged on, by its host. The Carnage symbiote’s parricidal feelings towards Venom are hinted at but left unexplored, despite the overwhelming potential of balancing that hateful association with the loving parallel Venom finds in Eddie. All of this is thrown to the wayside so that Cletus may have a love interest of his own, acting as a mirrored reflection of Eddie’s own relationships and an easy out for concluding character arcs in the third act.
It’s almost shameful that the film chooses to end Carnage’s story so soon after it begins, with both host and symbiote receiving an unceremonious death at the hands of their progenitor and rival. At the very least, Let There Be Carnage had the potential to serve as a functional origin story for Carnage, with his more threatening aspects set to be fleshed out in a later franchise installment. Nevertheless, the multiversal implications of the film’s post-credits scene offer hope at another shot with Carnage down the line. It’s possible that audiences will one day see the character in all his merciless glory, but until then, we’re left with a take on Carnage that feels like a decent impression at best.
In an odd move for any film, in the weeks leading up to the release of Venom: Let There Be Carnage, Sony put a lot of effort into marketing the movie’s post-credits scene specifically. Marvel movies are, of course, no strangers to including exciting material throughout a film’s credits, but generally, the movie itself is what studios advertise. While it may have been one of the worst-kept secrets around, the post-credits scene does have major implications for future Marvel projects. This article goes into detail on the Venom 2 post-credits scene (technically, it’s a mid-credits scene) and why it caused such a stir. As should be obvious, there are MAJOR SPOILERS below.
***SPOILER WARNING!***
After the events of Let There Be Carnage, Eddie and Venom are lying low and hiding out in some hotel room watching a soap opera. This leads Eddie to ask Venom if he’s been hiding stuff from him. Venom gets a bit ominous and suggests if he told him everything, it would blow his mind. “80 billion years of hive knowledge, across universes, would explode your tiny little brain.” He then offers to give Eddie a taste of “the smallest fraction of things” symbiotes have experienced.
Just as Venom starts to do this, something that can be best described as an almost earthquake-like happens. A bright light shines into the room and the entire place seems to phase in and out and alter itself in a dramatic, jarring fashion. Once it stops, the two are in a similar but differently-colored hotel room and with all new furniture. A man then steps out of the bathroom and asks Eddie why he’s in the man’s hotel room.
We see that both Venom and Eddie are completely confused. Venom then tells Eddie that “it wasn’t me.” The next part is where people go crazy. J.K. Simmons’ J. Jonah Jameson, last seen in Spider-Man: Far From Home, reporting from his Daily Bugle show on the TV. It’s the same information we heard him give us before–Spider-Man is a murderer named Peter Parker. It’s not just any Peter Parker, though, and Tom Holland’s maskless Spider-Man is shown on screen. Venom gets close to the screen, says “this guy…,” and then licks the screen.
There’s obviously a lot that can be read into this scene. It creates countless questions with essentially no answers. What we do know, most likely, is that Eddie and Venom apparently found their way into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. While the MCU opened its own multiverse with Loki’s finale and is exploring it more in What If… ?, this is the first time that any Sony-owned character — that didn’t debut in the MCU itself alongside Holland’s Spider-Man — has been confirmed to exist within the MCU.
It’s also the first official live-action multiverse “jump” of the MCU, if that is indeed what happened. It certainly raises a lot of questions over the mechanics of multiversal travel considering how random, unintentional and yet relatively smooth it seemed. With Spider-Man: No Way Home and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness on the horizon, it will be interesting to see how this squares with depictions of the multiverse in those films.
Marvel Studios and Sony deciding to, at least in part, cohabitate in the same universe may have a huge impact on the MCU going forward. If the door is open, Sony could bring more of its Spider-Man properties in–including Jared Leto’s Morbius, Aaron Taylor-Johnson’s Kraven the Hunter, and Olivia Wilde’s Spider-Woman project. The Morbius teaser trailer that dropped in January 2020 include details suggesting it could potentially have tie-ins to the MCU.
But will we see Venom again in the MCU anytime soon? Venom: Let There Be Carnage director Andy Serkis thinks so. He recently said that Venom and Spider-Man would “of course” meet at some point. But he also hinted it might not be as soon as the post-credits scene would suggest:
Look, it depends when you want to get there, and also, what the appetite is. If people want more Venom stories, then, to jump straight to Spider-Man, you could be missing out on so many great supervillain characters in between now and then. So, in a way, by rushing to it, you might be closing the door.
Andy Serkis
The Venom 2 post-credits definitely sent fans into a spiral of excitement and speculation. It seems clear that Sony and Marvel Studios have the intention to play nice together in the near future. This, of course, is a big win for both studios. The Marvel Cinematic Multiverse gets to be a bit more comprehensive, and Spidey fans get to see his world expand. As to the potential, and likely, Venom and Spider-Man meet-and-greet, though, people might need to be a little patient.
In Venom: Let There Be Carnage the examination of Eddie Brock’s relationship with the symbiote is fascinating. In all loving relationships, there’s a level of give and take that exists naturally. With these two, though, the give and take is tested in a way that exemplifies the meaning of love.
As the film goes along eventually there’s resentment between both Eddie and his alien paramour. Venom feels like it has made Eddie a better journalist and it wants a say in how things get done. (The super strength and healing powers don’t hurt either, of course.) Eddie wants the symbiote to chill out and not eat people’s heads, but instead stick to the chickens. It’s almost like leaving the toilet seat up. Nonetheless, that relationship does reach a crossroads when the two separate.
Sometimes distance creates perspective. Both parties got to see what it was like without the other. Eddie had a harder time figuring out Cletus Kasady’s story, and the symbiote couldn’t bond with just anyone. Even if they bicker like an old married couple, the two need each other. They’re at least smart enough to recognize that fact and eventually overcome their own issues and Carnage.
The biggest thing that the two of them learn is the classic relationship story of compromise. Working together and making the situation not only more tenable but meaningful in reality. These two iconic characters are in it for the long haul. As Venom’s story continues, the lethal protector has to be more together than ever. Whether it’s another Symbiote, or a certain wall-crawler Venom and Eddie will sink or swim together.
As the saying goes, “We can only learn to love by loving.” This relationship is truly a romance. Eddie Brock and the symbiote are a complete package, and with that comes a world of endless possibilities.
Venom: Let There be Carnage, starring Tom Hardy, is exclusively in theaters now.
Even as early predictions had the sequel to the 2018 surprise hit, Venom, eyeing around $60M+ at the domestic Box Office. It’s once again looking like it might beat expectations. It entered its Thursday previews with $11.6M, which put it at the second-best preview opening for any film of 2021. It’s only trailing behind Black Widow currently. Now, it seems that Venom: Let There Be Carnage is doing even better than initially expected. On Twitter @meJat32, who has built up a reputation for his box office analysis and insight, shared that the film is locking in at $85M, but could potentially even surpass $90M at its current momentum. No matter where it lands, it’s poised to surpass the original’s $80M after making approximately $37M on Friday.
US actuals are coming in around $36.5-37M opening day for #Venom2. Strong pre-sales for SAT, should easily go over $85M for weekend, if you are an optimist, $90M can't be ruled out. pic.twitter.com/g6KnbFWly5
It’s a good sign that cinema is recovering, as each new cinematic release is doing better than the previous one. Still, these are purely based on the numbers it gained on Friday. We’ve seen films dip quite hard once Saturday rolled around. Shang-Chi had tremendous legs when it was released and currently even surpassed Black Widow with the first $200M+ domestic cume.
Of course, the second weekend will show if Venom: Let There Be Carnage has any legs to compete with other entries in the box office. Either way, it adds hope that Eternals, and the much-anticipated release of Spider-Man: No Way Home could also become big earners once they release. Right now, it’s looking good for the overall box office making a quick recovery and we’ll return to some normalcy in 2022.
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