Tag: X-Men

  • How Disney+ STAR May Hint at ‘Deadpool 3’ Being a Soft-Reboot for the MCU

    How Disney+ STAR May Hint at ‘Deadpool 3’ Being a Soft-Reboot for the MCU

    Marvel Studios is venturing into new territory with their first R-rated project. The third entry in the Deadpool franchise will continue where the latest left off with the same vulgar we’ve come to love from the character. Yet, unlike the previous entries, we know that this new entry will be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe even with the R-ratingRyan Reynolds will return to tackle the role of the merc with a mouth. As far as we know, he is the only confirmed returning character from the previous films, and it opens up the question if the upcoming threequel will soft reboot the franchise. Wendy Molyneux and Lizzie Molyneux-Loeglin are hard at work on the script. So, nothing is set in stone for now. Yet, there is a chance that Marvel Studios and Disney may have accidentally hinted that the upcoming Deadpool film will work on its own merits.

    A few months ago, Disney+ expanded in specific markets through the STAR brand. It was a gateway for adult and R-rated projects to find their way into the usually family-friendly platform. Marvel already included a variety of the 20th Century films under the tagline “Marvel Legacy.” They had two separate stacks for the films and animated projects. Interestingly enough, the TV shows LegionAgents of SHIELD, and others are titled “Marvel Live-Action Series.” Now, as you can see in the image below, even though the third entry of Deadpool will be an MCU project, its first entry is classified as a Legacy film in the Disney+ selection.

     

     

    The list goes out of its way to highlight which projects are part of the MCU. Now, there is a chance that they might not have a placement for Deadpool, as his films tie into the other Legacy films from the X-Men franchise. Yet, that is a loose connection at best, because it seems to take place in the modern era, but we see the cast from X-Men: Apocalypse, which takes place in the 80s. Plus, the second film ended in a sequence where the merc with a mouth jumps through time. If it remains the same character from the previous films, they can easily retcon the character into the main timeline of the MCU as a result of his actions.

    So, he still has his fourth-wall-breaking mentality and experience from the previous films, but he ended up screwing the timeline that he ended up breaking through the multiverse. That way, they can write off the previous entries as Legacy films while the third is a soft-reboot into the MCU. It’s just speculation but with the Star Wars Vintage branding separating non-canon Star Wars projects, it seems quite deliberate that it was given the Legacy title. We’ll have to see how they approach the project, as there are rumors of a Hulu Deadpool series in development that may be hinting at a bright and bloody future for the iconic mercenary.

  • Lil Rel Howery Reveals He Was Cast in Channing Tatum’s ‘GAMBIT’

    Lil Rel Howery Reveals He Was Cast in Channing Tatum’s ‘GAMBIT’

    The cast of 20th Century Fox’s Gambit spin-off has grown by one. Well, if it was still in some form of development. Actor and comedian Lil Rel Howery revealed that he was once attached to star alongside Channing Tatum. It’s still uncertain who Howery would have portrayed, but his involvement in the first new tidbit on the troubled production we’ve gotten in a long time. He revealed this information during an interview to promote his upcoming Netflix comedy, Bad Trip. He first gave the vague description before confirming it:

    So there was a movie that I was attached to with Channing Tatum that we were going to do and whatever happened happened, it was in that world so…I was like ‘Damn man.’

    As a reminder, Gambit was a spin-off from the original X-Men franchise that never made it to the big screen. The film got announced in 2014. The project underwent multiple re-writes and experienced many delays over numerous years. After cycling through four directors, including Rupert Wyatt and Doug Liman, the movie was officially canceled in 2019.

    The only casting, aside from Tatum, was for the female lead. Actresses like Lea Seydoux and Rebecca Ferguson auditioned for the role of Belladonna Boudreaux. Howery, who has had something of a career renaissance since appearing in 2017’s Get Out, was never rumored to be part of the cast. This new revelation, straight from the lion’s mouth, almost makes you wonder what other talent may have been in line to appear in the film had it not been given the boot.

    Source: The Illuminerdi, Movieweb

  • Murphy’s Law Podcast: Episode 84

    Murphy’s Law Podcast: Episode 84

    Charles and Charles are back! Charles M. gives a bunch of Marvel Studios production updates and the guys talk about the big news around Marvel Studios X-Men reboot, the Thor: Love and Thunder set photos, Captain Marvel 2 rumors and more!

  • REPORT: Marvel Studios’ ‘X-Men’ Reboot in Early Development

    REPORT: Marvel Studios’ ‘X-Men’ Reboot in Early Development

    Ever since Disney purchased 20th Century Fox, we’ve been waiting for the X-Men to join the Marvel Cinematic Universe. During Disney’s Investors Day, Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige revealed that they are adapting Fantastic Four, but the mutants will have to wait a bit. There have been theories that they could appear in WandaVision, as Wanda Maximoff has close ties with Magneto. It seemed unlikely to happen with each passing episode, but it looks like Marvel Studios is finally moving forward with their adaptation of the iconic mutant family.

    Illuminerdi has just shared that the X-Men film reboot has entered the early stage of development. As of right now, there is no talent of any kind attached to the project. It’ll enter development under the working title “The Mutants,” which is beautifully straight-forward. We have no details of how they will approach the project, but it would indicate that we could maybe get some news by the end of the year.

     

     

    It will be interesting to see which direction they go. 20th Century Fox introduced the first film in the franchise back in 2000. So, the franchise has been going for around 20 years. Last year’s The New Mutants marked the end of an era. The original franchise focused a lot on Wolverine. It made sense as he is one of the group’s most popular characters. They might take a different route and focus on the school, as they could take the same path as the Harry Potter franchise did by focusing on the students. No matter what direction they take, we can’t wait to see it unfold on the silver screen.

    Source: Illuminerdi

  • ‘M.O.D.O.K.’ Co-Creator Jordan Blum Reveals First Look at Mr. Sinister

    ‘M.O.D.O.K.’ Co-Creator Jordan Blum Reveals First Look at Mr. Sinister

    It has been a while since we had any real news on the upcoming MODOK Hulu Original show. We got our first official look at the stop-motion animated series around four months agoRobot Chicken‘s Stoopid Buddy is behind the wheel with their classic animation style making a return and showing the difficulty of balancing his family life while trying to conquer the world. So far, the only confirmed character outside of MODOK’s family is the main antagonist Austin Van Der Sleet, who owns a rival company. Luckily, it looks like we will see a variety of other Marvel icons make an appearance in the series. Co-Creator Jordan Blum took to Twitter to reveal that the iconic X-Men antagonist, Mr. Sinister, will make an appearance.

    https://twitter.com/BlumJordan/status/1358892327712874497

    The design truly embraces the character’s taste in capes. Sadly, we don’t know who will be voicing Mr. Sinister or how large the role will end up being. It also is the last show after Hellstrom to come from the time before the Marvel TV and Studios merger. MODOK will be an adult comedy. As such, it makes sense that it will not become a Disney+ show. There is a chance it will get released as the first Marvel series under the STAR banner in selected markets. Hellstrom technically will have that title, but it didn’t come with a Marvel logo. Originally, it was eyeing a release early this year. So, they might have pushed it back with no official release date announced. Hopefully, this reveal is just the beginning of other iconic Marvel characters that will join the animated series.

    Source: Twitter

  • Jac Schaeffer Talks Evan Peters Inclusion in ‘WandaVision’

    Jac Schaeffer Talks Evan Peters Inclusion in ‘WandaVision’

    WandaVision has been an insane ride. Its sitcom-based premise was strange enough, but it started to throw in one twist after another. The fifth episode probably gave us the biggest surprise yet, as Wanda welcomed her brother Pietro back to the living. While it did turn out to be Quicksilver, it wasn’t Aaron Taylor-Johnson. Knocking on Westview’s door was none-other than Evan Peters. Yes, the very same that played the iconic character in 20th Century Fox’s X-Men franchise. It was also one of the site’s biggest stories written by Charles Murphy some time ago, which finally got confirmed.

    The fifth episode’s title: “On A Very Special Episode…” was certainly fitting. Luckily, everyone who is still confused about the reveal and what it might mean, head writer Jac Schaeffer offered some details on how they managed to cast him.

    This show is such a mind scramble, and because it’s working on so many levels, and there’s so many notions of what’s real and what’s not, and performance, and casting, and audience, and fandom, and all of that, we just thought it would be the biggest thrill to bring Evan over to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. We thought like, how do we give him this entrance, and then enjoy that, and then make it crazy? And we had long had the idea of the trope of the brother, or the relative, or whoever comes to town and like, stirs things up with the family — that sitcom trope.

    The idea came from Schaeffer and executive producer Mary Livanos, who wanted to make it a reality. His inclusion was at a perfect time, as Wanda and Vision were at a standstill. They truly utilized the 80s cliché to its fullest potential. Of course, Peters brought along an accent to make the trope fully come to life. She also discusses how difficult it was for his inclusion to make sense within the larger story that is getting told. They worried how organic it would be, especially as they had so many different ideas already bouncing around. They confirmed that Marvel Studios CEO Kevin Feige was adamant that his inclusion had a reason. Hopefully, it will play out in the upcoming episodes. It also seems that Peters was excited to join the MCU, as we are to see what his character’s inclusion might be setting up for the franchise’s future.

    Source: Marvel

  • Marvel Studios’ ‘X-Men’ Still Being Actively Discussed

    Marvel Studios’ ‘X-Men’ Still Being Actively Discussed

    Disney Investor’s Day was filled to the brim with major announcements. We got the reveal of some new Disney+ shows, such as Secret Invasion and Armor Wars. However, probably the biggest surprise was the announcement of a Marvel Studios’ Fantastic Four film. There was still no sign of their take on the X-Men, however. We do have the confirmation that Deadpool, who is closely tied to the franchise, will be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in his upcoming third film, but no word if we can expect, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Cyclops, Storm, and all the other mutants to make their appearance any time soon. Now, with the WandaVision press junket underway, ScreenRant used this chance to ask him if there is anything he can say about the franchise:

    You know how much I love the X-Men. I already said that’s where I started. I can’t tell you anything before we actually announced it, but rest assured, the discussions have been long and ongoing internally.

    Well, it looks like there is still some time before they will explore that aspect of the MCU. It does make sense, as they will not want to rush these characters out while they map out what will make their version of the characters unique from 20th Century Fox’s run. There is also the question if they will focus on the Inhumans for a few years, who might make their reappearance in the upcoming Ms. Marvel Disney+ show. There has been no confirmation on their appearance, however, so anything is still possible. WandaVision may also open up the introduction of mutants, as there were teases that the Mind Stone released dormant abilities within Wanda. Whatever Marvel Studios decides, it is good they are not rushing out the characters after only just getting the rights. There is a chance some of them might make cameo appearances early on before rolling out into their own film. Marvel’s future is bright, so why rush it now.

    Source: ScreenRant

  • Hasbro Unveils Full HoX/PoX Marvel Legends Wave

    Hasbro Unveils Full HoX/PoX Marvel Legends Wave

    Jonathan Hickman kicked off Marvel Comics X-Men renaissance last year with dual series House of X and Powers of X. The books represent a new era for mutants as they have returned to a prominent place at the House of Ideas. Earlier this year, Hasbro teased that some of the designs from the books would be making their way into the 6-inch Marvel Legends line. Today, the entire wave was revealed during a Fan First Friday Livestream. Joining the already teased Professor X, Moira and Magneto will be Cyclops, Jean Grey, Wolverine and the Omega Sentinel. It was also revealed that the wave’s BAF will be a Tri-Sentinel!

     

    Fans of the comics will note that Hasbro has cleverly labeled the boxes in Krakoan, the language created by Hickman for the new run, providing a cool wink-wink to the hardest of hardcore X-book readers.

    Pre-orders for the wave are set to go live today at 1:00 PM EST at Hasbro Pulse.

  • ‘X-MEN’ Franchise Postmortem: Ranking the 13 Fox X-Films

    ‘X-MEN’ Franchise Postmortem: Ranking the 13 Fox X-Films

    With Fox’s The New Mutants making its way into homes last week, folks who were unable to see it during its theatrical run finally got a chance to see the last entry in the studio’s long-running X-Men franchise. The curtain has fallen on the Logan-verse films and while many are looking forward to the next iteration of the characters under the care of Marvel Studios One-Above-All, Kevin Feige, we at Murphy’s Multiverse wanted to take a look back at the past twenty years of films. While they were certainly a roller coaster ride, they paved the way for modern CBMs and introduced general audiences to the X-Men. With the corpse of the franchise fresh on the table, here’s our postmortem ranking, reviews and hot takes on Fox’s X-films.

    The 10 Best and 10 Worst Moments from the X-Men Movies

     

    Ranking and Reviewing the X-Films From Worst to Best

    About Our Rankings

    8 members of the Murphy’s Multiverse team ranked the films from 1-13. When all the personal rankings were in, we tallied to points. A ranking of 1 (the best film) gained a film 13 points; a ranking of 13 (the worst film) gained a film 1 point. 

    About Our Reviews

    For the most part, team members who felt more strongly about the film one way or another were given the opportunity to describe their take in a short blurb.

    13. Dark Phoenix (2019)

    X-Men: Dark Phoenix' Director Reveals What Wrong With 'X-Men: The Last Stand' | ScienceFiction.com

    Total Points: 16
    Average Rank: 2.3
    Points per Film: 1.2

    The final film of the modern X-Men quadrology was dealt some heavy damage before it was ever released thanks to the Fox/Disney merger. Reshoots and poor decision making by the creative team behind it led to the studio dropping the ball for the second time on one of the greatest comic books arc ever written.

    5 Multiverse team members ranked it as the worst of the bunch while one team member ranked it as 7th best but even that high score wasn’t enough to keep this off the bottom of the list.

    Dalbin Osorio’s Take:

    So, Fox decided that the best way to utilize Apocalypse, arguably the X-Men’s greatest threat, was to waste him. Certainly, they would try and end their X-Men trilogy with a…. oh, wait, they hired the guy who wrote the Last Stand to direct the Dark Phoenix storyline? And the uniforms that resembled the comics, from First Class, were going to be even worse this time around? No, no, Fox would never do this. Oh, they did, did they? And they cast Sansa Stark as a brooding conflicted young girl with immense power that she never asked for? I’ve never seen that before, like ever. The best thing I can say about this one is that this was the last one before the X-Men came home.

    Superhero Theorist’s Take:

    Imagine you come into the theater, saying to yourself; “This film couldn’t possibly be worse than X-Men: Apocalypse. I’m sure Bryan Singer learned his lesson from X-Men: Last Stand.” The fact alone that the film doesn’t even have X-Men in the title should be a clear indication of the faith people had in this movie. They adapted this story TWICE, and somehow the second time was worse than the first one.

    12. X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)

    Weapon Blech — X-Men Origins: Wolverine | Tor.com

    Total Points: 24
    Average Rank: 3.0
    Points per Film: 1.8

    This one barely outclassed Dark Phoenix but wasn’t treated well by the group. While it’s more memorable for the bastardization of Deadpool and the altogether inexplicable addition of Gambit,  a memorable performance by Liev Schreiber keeps it just a rung above the bottom.

    While none of the team ranked it at THE bottom, it sat between 2 and 5 on everyone’s list.

    John Sabato’s Take:

    While the first solo outing of Weapon x suffers from some less than super creative choices it’s few shining stars helped it in the long run, paving the way for the future. What could be considered the worst choice that the film made caused one of the biggest redemption stories in the Superhero film genre, with the debut of Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool. This paired with the shining star that was Hugh Jackman’s James Howlett make it a watch up to scratch.

    Charles Villanueva’s Take:

    When you cast will.i.am as a superhero, you know you’re already in trouble. I haven’t seen Origins since it came out but I remember laughing at the Gambit sequence because of how stupid it was. I imagine that scene is even worse to watch now. Even Liev Schrieber’s A+ casting as Victor Creed couldn’t save this movie.

    11. The New Mutants (2020)

    New Mutants is full-fledged horror, says Charlie Heaton

     

    Total Points: 24
    Average Rank: 3.4
    Points per Film: 1.8

    The final film of Fox’s 20-year run had quite the chaotic path to the big screen, only making it into theaters in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic meaning it never had a chance at the box office. The film was pretty much D.O.A. and while it certainly wasn’t “the worst of the bunch”, that’s hardly an accomplishment in a film series where the lows are very low.

    It came down to a tie-breaker of average rank to keep this two steps out of the basement. While some of us liked it better than others, it didn’t make the top half of anyone’s list here and was one of 3 films to receive fewer than 1.8 ppf, an entirely made up metric used exclusively here at Murphy’s Multiverse!

    Dalbin Osorio’s Take:

    Charles tricked me again, I see. Alright, so this had a ton of potential and the casting of Arya Stark as a powerful chosen one-like character who is out for revenge from the people responsible for what’s happened to her is casting I just never saw coming. Factor in a hospital-setting to trick us into thinking it’s a horror story, some very bad racism, and you get the real final gift from FOX before the mutants return to the MCU. It’s finally over.

    Charles Murphy’s Take:

    The film’s premise is that these new mutants are too dangerous to be a part of the greater society and so they are kept in isolation and studied; ironically this film found itself in the middle of my list for the same reason: it’s forever going to be kept in isolation and never be able to do any further damage to the X-series. While I enjoyed the sweet and believable relationship between Maisie Williams’ Rhane and Blu Hunt’s Dani, I was incredibly underwhelmed by the rest of the characters. It’s certainly not the worst of the X-films, but that’s no reason to celebrate it. 

    10. X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)

    X-Men: Apocalypse director says he expected criticism of the film's villain | GamesRadar+

    Total Points: 30
    Average Rank: 3.8
    Points per Film: 2.3

    This collaboration by Simon Kinberg and Bryan Singer accomplished the impossible: rendering one of Marvel Comics most fascinating characters meaningless. More than just misusing the title character, the film also misused Oscar Isaac in the role, giving him nearly nothing to do other than look entirely uncomfortable. For a film about the most evolved mutant, it showed a surprising lack of creative fitness.

    This one finds itself at the top of the bottom tier of films by garnering a whopping 2.3 ppf but only because one team member either actually enjoyed it or mistakenly ranked it as the 6th best X-film. Either way, the film’s take on En Sabah Nur didn’t really connect with the team.

    John Sabato’s Take:

    Unlike First Class, I found Apocalypse, while flawed, to be a much more recognizable adaptation of the characters. While the execution was a bit botched the characters were what sold the film for me. With these new additions to the roster having felt more familiar than previous incarnations, we’d met throughout the franchise. It’s a shame we never saw the return of Olivia Munn’s Psylocke, one of the most underrated characters in the franchise.

    Superhero Theorist’s Take:

    Imagine you come into the theater, super excited to see how 20th Century Fox could possibly top X-Men: Days of Future Past and then you have X-Men: Apocalypse. Whether it was Apocalypse’s look, a story that was just everywhere or a Mister Sinister set up that will never see the light of day, this film was a letdown for the potential it set up.

    9. X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)

    10 Movie Deaths That Totally Trolled Audiences – Page 2

    Total Points: 40
    Average Rank: 5.0
    Points per Film: 3.1

    Simon Kinberg’s first shot at adapting the classic Dark Phoenix arc to film is memorably horrible but, to his credit, he didn’t give up after his first failure and moved on to an even greater one in 2019! From Cyclops’ ridiculous death scene to Vinnie Jones Juggernaut, this was one that should never have made it past the first draft.

    This one was down towards the bottom of almost everyone’s list but one team member holds it in high esteem, as you’ll read below. That ranking held it out of the bottom tier of films by pushing it JUUUUUUUUUUST over 3.1 ppf.

    Dalbin Osorio’s Take:

    What could be better than leather suits and a really creative Dark Phoenix teaser that leads into the trilogy of what was, at the time, the gold standard for superhero movies? Handing the reins to a director who was only known for Rush Hour, who believed we needed more leather suits, and we needed Jean Grey to turn into the Phoenix and then turn everybody into bubbles! The Last Stand, with Spider Man 3, are the best examples I can think of of a studio wasting the goodwill fans give them by churning out absolutely awful films. I, for one, am thrilled that Fox never tried to looks at note Charles passes me about the other blurbs on my list* oh, dear God.

    Charles Villanueva’s Take:

    It’s hard to forgive a film that kills off Cyclops for no reason but here we are with the Last Stand. The film sticks out as the worst in the entire franchise simply for having so many bad takes on the characters. They botched probably the most iconic X-Men story in history in a hilariously tone-deaf way. The way they treated these characters had no rhyme or reason. Characters were in it simply because and they were treated like shit simply because.

    8. The Wolverine (2013)

    6 X-Men The Fox Franchise Didn't Do Justice - CINEMABLEND

    Total Points: 59
    Average Rank: 7.4
    Points per Film: 4.5

    Despite not being a bad film by any means, The Wolverine might be the most forgettable film of the bunch despite being directed by James Mangold. Mangold, of course, redeemed himself with Logan, but this one seemed to just miss the mark while telling the story of one the most interesting parts of Logan’s complicated past.

    As you can see, this one was firmly in the middle for the team, finding itself between 4 and 9 on everyone’s list. Probably a credit to Jackman’s ownership of the role, The Wolverine serves as the fulcrum of our rankings of the X-films.

    Joseph “The Machine” Aberl’s Take:

    I have a soft spot for The Wolverine, as I watched it with my father in cinemas while visiting. I was so disappointed by X-Men Origins that I went in hesitant if the film was going to be good. Chris Claremont and Frank Miller‘s Wolverine run was so iconic that I was worried about how they would adapt it, but was very surprised by the film. Even if the ending jumped the gun, it was a slower-paced and an introspective film about Logan’s struggle, which was a welcome change of pace at the time.

    Dalbin Osorio’s Take:

    After X-Men Origins, I didn’t think there would ever be any demand for my favorite X-Men character, and yet Fox put Hugh Jackman on a bullet train in Japan to fight a CGI Silver Samurai with a huge sword. We, ALSO, get a glimpse of the comic-accurate costume for Logan and that’s enough to purchase the extended edition of this movie alone. Then we get to a post-credit scene where Xavier and Mags show up because it’s time travel, baby, and I consider this an absolute win.

     

    7. X-Men: First Class (2011)

    Peace was never an option” — X-Men: First Class | Tor.com

    Total Points: 60
    Average Rank: 7.5
    Points per Film: 4.6

    When X-Men: First Class came out in 2011, it came 5 years after the end of the first X-trilogy and offered fans a fresh if not confusing take on the X-Men. The studio assembled an absolutely stellar cast with Michael Fassbender, Jennifer Lawrence and James McAvoy leading the way and even convinced Kevin Bacon to sign on as the film’s villain, Sebastian Shaw. However, in hindsight, the first cracks in the armor started to show as any and all attempts to truly translate the beloved comics to the screen stopped with the disservice paid to the Summers brothers, the strange Charles/Raven relationship and the terrifying choices made about Moira.

    This one truly fell in the middle of the pack for most of the team but, as you’ll see below, Charles V. and JJ had some hot takes on the property that left them as the outliers.

    Charles Villanueva’s Take:

    First Class gets a win for me simply for being the first X-Men that actually tried to respect the source material. Granted, there are some ridiculously dumb things in this movie such as their treatment of Darwin and using Havok for no reason but in a franchise that has so much bad stuff, simply seeing the team actually come together as X-Men made this film worthwhile. The blue and yellow costumes looked great. Fassbender hunting Nazis was amazing to watch. Plus props to them for trying to include the Hellfire Club in some way.

    John Sabato’s Take:

    While many regard it as one of the best X-Men films I don’t find it to be all that it’s chalked up to be. It just wasn’t a plot that held much promise for me and I found the film to be quite dull and uninspired. This problem was quite conflicting when you realize some of the most interesting and prominent characters in comics are part of this film and feel unrecognizable.

    6. X-Men (2000)

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    Total Points: 61
    Average Rank: 7.6
    Points per Film: 4.7

    The original X-Men film will always be remembered for introducing the X-Men to the big screen. Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan gave the film a sense of legitimacy that other early CBMs didn’t necessarily carry but (and this is a pretty common theme with the X-films) it was choices about how to portray the characters that keep this one from ascending to the top of the list. The original trilogy swung and missed on Rogue, Storm, Jean Grey and Scott Summers and that all started here.

    Nostalgia points elevated the OG just above its reboot counterpart, First Class, but the black leather costumes and the questionable characterization of some beloved characters kept this one firmly planted in the middle of the pack.

    Joao Pinto’s Take:

    At a time when superhero movies had lost some of the character Richard Donner and Tim Burton had reinvigorated the genre with, before Spider-Man, five years before the Dark Knight trilogy, eight years before the MCU, and thirteen years before the DCEU, there was the X-Men. It’s common for a CGI-heavy movie not to age too well, but 20 years on it it still manages to hold up once it becomes obvious that side of things was never the movie’s true strength. Its theme is still as relevant as ever and it was smart enough to make it about the relationships between characters and not about some flashy special effects that would become outdated in a couple of years. The cast, not being perfect, was pretty spot on, so much so that its three main characters/actors managed to stay relevant to this day.

     

    Ms. Lizzie Hill’s Take:

    I read X-Men comics as a kid like so many others, so I was very excited when the mutants finally hit the big screen. A recent rewatch reminded me how disappointed I was in one of my favorites Kitty Pryde only having a quick cameo and how instead they opted for a young scared little girl version of Rogue which I barely recognize from my days reading the comics. Storm also is very off, and despite having Oscar winner Halle Berry in the role, Ororo is never really done justice. In addition, a rather cosplay looking Sabertooth (more weird looking than scary), some effects not quite up to par by today’s standards, and a few corny lines and gags peppered in, pushes an otherwise still fairly enjoyable film down on my list a bit.

    5 (tie). Deadpool 2 (2018)

    Deadpool 2': Creating the Colossus vs. Juggernaut Slugfest in VFX | IndieWire

    Total Points: 71
    Average Rank: 8.9
    Points per Film: 5.5

    Ironically the two Deadpool films found themselves dead even in both average rank and ppf (our totally made-up metric that had been used for the tiebreaker previously). The sequel is the highest-grossing of all the X-films and certainly set the stage for some bigger things in a threequel or even the planned X-Force film. Josh Brolin was damn good as Cable, we got a different take on Juggernaut and a really, really different (and not in a good way) take on Black Tom. Overall there’s no argument against this one being a part of the top tier of X-films.

    Everyone treated this one pretty kindly, but it was Joao’s take that ultimately ended up forcing the tie with the original.

    Joseph “The Machine” Aberl’s Take:

    So, I’ve been a Deadpool fan for the longest time. Some of the first comics I collected are from the character and it took me some time to warm-up to Ryan Reynold’s rendition of the Merc with a Mouth. The first film’s plot felt surprisingly by-the-numbers that the sequel did what I was hoping for. It felt less restricted and just gave us an incredibly fun story with memorable set-pieces and lines. Yet, what truly stuck out was the emotional core of the film, as that rendition of Take On Me still brings me to tears to this day.

    Joao Pinto’s Take:

    After really enjoying the first movie, mostly because it felt like something relatively new for a mainstream superhero movie, Deadpool 2 felt like much of the same. It was as if they thought that the dick-joke-loving crowd wasn’t capable of expecting something more out of the sequel. It felt repetitive and with a much slower pace than the original. After basically having the same writing team for both movies, even Kevin Feige understood that it was time for a change since it didn’t manage to live up to expectations at all.

     

    5 (tie). Deadpool (2016)

    Watch: Deadpool "Creating Colossus" Behind-The-Scenes With Concept Art | Cosmic Book News

    Total Points: 71
    Average Rank: 8.9
    Points per Film: 5.5

    Deadpool will forever serve as a testament to the role that social media has played in the development of films and the power of fandom. Director Tim Miller and Ryan Reynolds shot a sizzle reel for their pitch to Fox. That sizzle reel “leaked” and the rest is history. Reynolds’ sustained passion for the character not only helped this one make it to the big screen but also helped the property survive the move from Fox to Disney.

    The team consistently appreciated this one and even those who didn’t “love” it certainly don’t hate it. I guess everyone loves a good dick joke…or 50.

    Ms. Lizzie Hill’s Take:

    When Deadpool first came out, many fans were excited for a fun, curse filled, R rated, uber violent superhero movie. I was not one of them. However, when I finally saw Deadpool I absolutely did not expect to be so drawn in by the merc with a mouth, and his girlfriend Vanessa. Superhero movies often don’t do justice to love stories or love interests of superheros. The chemistry between Reynolds and Baccarin is palpable and delightful onscreen. That combined with a very poignant story about a man who has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, and what he does to try to spare his loved one the heartache of watching him die, really makes Deadpool a much more emotionally engaging film than it’s given credit for.

    Superhero Theorist’s Take:

    Now you’re probably asking why I put Deadpool as a low rather than a high? Specifically, because of stuff like the first sentence. 40% 4th wall breaking, 30% satire, 20% pop culture references, and 10% Ryan Reynolds. It’s like an 1 hour and 49-minute episode of Family Guy. The film wasn’t bad, but it’s just not as high up for me if we’re ranking all the X-Men films together.

     

    3. X2 (2003)

    The Hateful Debate: X2: X-Men United (2003)

    Total Points: 81
    Average Rank: 10.1
    Points per Film: 6.2

    As the sequel to X-Men, X2 certainly elevated the original and set the stage from big things in the franchise. Whether you like it or not, this one really cemented the X-films as Logan-centric and is probably the reason why you got a Wolverine trilogy.

    The team treated this one much more kindly than any of the other OG X-films with it ending up in EVERYONE’S top 4 with the exception of one…

    Dalbin Osorio’s Take:

    I loved X2, went to go see it the day it came out, and Nightcrawler’s attack on the President is not anything I haven’t thought of the last four years, that’s for sure. Halle Berry got rid of the accent, so that was weird, but we get an iconic Magneto line when he tells Xavier “you should’ve killed me when you had the chance.” Chills from the older Michael Fassbender. Wolverine v Lady Deathstrike STILL holds up, and Bryan Cox as William Stryker was phenomenal casting. It’s my 2nd favorite X-Men movie.

    Charles Murphy’s Take:

    The first time I saw this film, it continually caught me off guard. From the introduction of Nightcrawler to the invasion of Xavier’s school where we see Wolverine go into berserker rage to Magneto’s prison break to the revelations of Logan’s past and the secret of Stryker’s son, this one felt like one jolt of adrenalin after another when I saw it in theaters. It still holds up well other than the fact that we know the Phoenix set up at the end is doomed to fail miserably. 

    2. X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014)

    X-Men - Days of Future Past, Sunspot, Sentinel - Electric Shadows

    Total Points: 89
    Average Rank: 11.1
    Points per Film: 6.8

    The crown jewel of the modern X-quadrology, X-Men: Days of Future Past was able to weave the 7 team films into one crooked tapestry. The studio did a MUCH better job of adapting this classic storyline to the screen than they did with the Phoenix Saga, though it wasn’t perfect. A few wasted character cameos weren’t enough to weigh down our first live-action look at Quicksilver, a pretty great Sentinel design and a reunion of the old cast.

    True to its cumulative ranking, this one most commonly found itself in the # slot for most of the team and only fell as low as 5th on one ballot.

    Joseph “The Machine” Aberl’s take:

    Days of Future Past felt like a return to form for the franchise that was able to make a time travel story featuring mutants truly work. Jackman’s return as Wolverine was something many were excited for after his cameo in First Class, but he didn’t overrun the story this time. James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, and Jennifer Lawrence continued their strong performances from the last entry, while also giving us some great emotional moments. Plus, the iconic Quicksilver sequence is something that stuck in my mind after all this time.

    Joao Pinto’s Take:

    Had Fox managed to retain the X-Men movie rights we were probably getting yet another retelling of this particular storyline in a couple of years, just like they did with Dark Phoenix after X-Men: The Last Stand. It would always end up as a poor attempt at adapting a great arc from the comics because they wouldn’t give it enough time for its significance to be properly appreciated. It took Fox fewer movies to get to this than for the Avengers to get the team together. It should have taken them at least double that amount. We also continue to focus too much on Logan at a time when it was Kitty Pryde’s turn under the spotlight. 

    1. Logan (2017)

    Logan: A Film Fighting With Itself — Feminist Frequency

     

     

    Total Points: 99
    Average Rank: 12.4
    Points per Film: 7.6

    Everybody loves Logan. It was the end of the road for Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart and was supposed to be the beginning of the road for Dafne Keen’s X-23. James Mangold’s film received high marks from critics and fans alike and paid off on the great friendship between Logan and Charles that began nearly 20 years prior.

    The gap in total points between it and the second-place film (Days of Future Past) is striking considering how well-liked the second-place film was. It made the top 4 on everyone’s list and was the top film on 6 of 8 ballots.

    Ms. Lizzie Hill’s Take:

    Logan is an emotionally ravaging gritty swan song for not one but two iconic X-Men film figures. When we first saw the Wolverine, he was alone, with no memory and no family. In Logan, between his deep and complex relationship with Charles, now acting as a sort of elderly parent with dementia, and a reluctant father-daughter relationship with Laura, a young girl who is much more like him than he realizes, Logan finally has a family. There are, as in most superhero movies, exciting fight scenes, throughout, but it’s the heart of the film, the well-developed “familial” relationships like this, that really make it a top film for me.

    Charles Murphy’s Take:

    Logan is the most visceral of the X-films and served as a ride into the sunset for Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman who had both done some heavy lifting for the franchise. As much as I enjoyed watching Laura grunt and gut a bunch of guys, I was equally put off by the really strange decision to introduce X-24 to the mix. I think as a fan of Old Man Logan, I was set up to fail for this one because there was no way for Fox to deliver on that story but I still have it ranked as my 3rd most enjoyable film though I may not celebrate it as vigorously as others.

    A Look at the Box Office 

    Even from a Box Office perspective, there was an interesting development within the X-Men franchise. The two strongest Box Office hits were both Deadpool films. While the second one only barely out beat its predecessor with a higher budget, it is still remarkable that two R-rated films managed to beat out most of the franchise’s tentpole films. Only X-Men: Days of Future Past was able to break the $700M mark, which can mostly be connected to its major campaign of Bryan Singer‘s return to the franchise since he left after X2. Still, the franchise has seen substantial growth throughout its original trilogy until the reboot with a completely new cast saw a fall in viewers.

    The stark contrast between it and its sequel Days of Future Past showed how attached viewers were to the original cast and creative team. It also highlighted how much star power Hugh Jackman has garnered in the iconic role with his spin-offs performing incredibly well, especially his swan song Logan. The numbers, however, started to drop for the mainline X-Men series, as Apocalypse couldn’t manage the same as its predecessor before it officially crashed down below the original’s Box Office with Dark Phoenix. The franchise saw a wild ride, as their most successful franchise almost never saw the light of day until some test footage was leaked.

    1. Deadpool 2 (786,680,557)
    2. Deadpool ($784,682,527)
    3. X-Men: Days of Future Past ($747,862,527)
    4. Logan ($614,202,315)
    5. X-Men: Apocalypse ($542,537,546)
    6. X-Men: The Last Stand ($459,260,946)
    7. The Wolverine ($416,456,852)
    8. X2 ($406,348,630)
    9. X-Men Origins: Wolverine ($374,825,760)
    10. X-Men: First Class ($355,408,305)
    11. X-Men ($296,872,367)
    12. Dark Phoenix ($246,356,895)
    13. The New Mutants ($44,616,390)

    Source: The Numbers

    The team had a blast looking back on the bloated corpse of the Fox films and now feel that we can truly turn our attention to the future of these characters as they begin to enter the MCU!

  • Theory Thursday: Exploring the Marvel Cinematic Multiverse

    Theory Thursday: Exploring the Marvel Cinematic Multiverse

    There’s no doubt in my mind that the biggest story element that will come into play for the Next Phase of the Marvel Cinematic Universe will be the concept of the Multiverse. Already teased back in Avengers: Endgame (2019) with Dr. Banner’s explanation of the concept of time travel and Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019), the MCU looks like it will indeed explore the boundaries outside of its already established universe. This concept will most likely be explored on a larger scale over the Disney+ series, WandaVision (2020) and Loki (2021), and the MCU film, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022), (with rumors of the concept being explored in the upcoming Spider-Man sequel; Spider-Man: Something with Home in the Title (2021)). We’ll also be able to see the concept of the multiverse be explored on a smaller scale in the upcoming Disney+ show; What If? (2021). Now, definitely, the major chunk of the film will be explored in the upcoming Doctor Strange sequel and there are dozens of questions as to what different universes we might explore. So today, I’m listing off the different Marvel properties that Marvel could revisit and explore for this film.

     

    I. Blade (1998 – 2004)

     

    This was a suggestion by the members of our Discord Group in Knowhere (Shoutout to you guys!). Wesley Snipes’ Blade walked so Marvel Studios could run. The film franchise that would essentially lay the groundwork for many of the Marvel superhero films we now know today started with the Blade franchise and it actually brought back interest to the Marvel Comics franchise to develop their films. It would be nice to see Marvel Studios show a small nod to the universe of the vampire hunter before we get our own version in the MCU with Mahershala Ali.

     

    II. Daredevil/Elektra (2003 – 2005)

     

     

    This was another suggestion by our Discord Members and it was just too funny not to imagine the idea of Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner reprising their roles as Daredevil and Elektra for small cameos in the Doctor Strange sequel. These films were set in the time and universe where leather was the standard for Superhero costumes and I’d just love to see Ben Affleck don the Matt Murdock mantle again, even if for a small cameo. Speaking of Matt Murdock…

     

    III. The Defenders Universe (2015-2019)

     

     

    It’s no doubt in anyone’s mind that the way Netflix brought about the creation of these characters and their stories was overall one of the best things to come out of Marvel TV. Charlie Cox’s Daredevil was, and still is, one of the most popular iterations of Marvel characters brought to life and has been one of the most requested by fans for Kevin Feige to bring back in a small reboot form to the MCU. Krysten Ritter’s Jessica Jones, Mike Colter’s Luke Cage, Finn Jones’ Iron Fist, and Jon Bernthal’s Punisher are no exceptions either. Fantastic story development and world-building came from this portion of the universe and it would be great to see these characters show a small cameo of their world in the Marvel Multiverse and maybe crossover into the MCU someday.

     

    IV. Fantastic Four (2005-2007)

     

    Now when I mention the Fantastic Four, I mean THESE Fantastic Four. We call the 2015 film; Fan4stic (as in Fan-Four-Stic) because that wasn’t a Fantastic 4 film. This version of Marvel’s first family with Ioan Gruffudd as Reed Richards, Jessica Alba as Susan Storm, Chris Evans as Johnny Storm, and Michael Chiklis as Ben Grimm wasn’t necessarily all that fantastic either, but the chemistry among them really made them great and it was a very fun franchise while it lasted. It would be fun to see them revisit this universe in a small cameo and maybe we’ll see Evans reprise his role again as Johnny Storm and have him be confused for his MCU counterpart of Captain America.

     

    V. The X-Men (2000 – 2020)

     

     

    Okay, so the 20th Century Fox-owned X-Men films have existed for nearly 20 years now and they’ve had their share of ups and downs (mainly downs), but they’ve had some good moments and actors in these franchises whom I would love to see cameo in this whole Multiverse fiasco. Mainly Hugh Jackman as Wolverine because it’s just difficult to picture another Wolverine as iconic as his. An interaction of Patrick Stewart’s Charles Xavier with Doctor Strange sounds like it would be an interesting thing to see as well. I don’t think it will necessarily happen but one can dream no?

     

    VI. Ghost Rider (2007 – 2011)

     

    Nicolas Cage’s take on the antihero was something definitely worth mentioning here on this list. Sure, the films are slightly forgettable but just the idea of Cage alone being nodded as a Ghost Rider from another dimension sounds like a fantastic idea for a cameo and a tease of what could come if the MCU finally decides to introduce Ghost Rider into the MCU.

     

    VII. Spider-Man (2002 – 2015)

     

    I know many like myself are hyping themselves up at even the smallest chance of having a Spider-Verse moment occur in live-action. It’s something fans have been clamoring for for years, and now, with the gates of the multiverse being blown wide open in the MCU, it seems like the perfect time to bring these characters in for an adventure of epic proportions. Will it happen though? Only time will tell.